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My Perfect Mini-Notebook

After testing seven netbooks (Asus  Eee PC 4G, Asus Eee PC 900, MSI U100, Dell Inspiron 910, HP 2133, Geode reference design, Asus Eee PC 1000H), over the last five months, I now know what I want to see in future designs.  This may not be the same for all 6,699,999,999 people on earth, but perhaps for a handful or two of like-minded people.

One caveat: I don’t expect a single mini-notebook design to be able to meet both my usage models:

* One inside the home focused on entertainment
* One outside the home focused on portability


My ideal at-home mini-notebook

I would like to carry my mini-notebook from room-to-room, plugging it in via HDMI to the next best available flat panel TV in the home. It would also be great to wirelessly stream 1080i video content off the web or my home server, which would benefit from HD graphics decode capability, wireless-N, and the capability to externally project at 1920×1080i resolutions.  A simple, Gyration-style wireless remote should come standard to easily navigate content from 10′.

For web surfing, I would like the peace of mind that my system could support the next-generation of Adobe Flash and Microsoft Silverlight technology, so it doesn’t become a paperweight in 6 months. This means the processor and native panel screen size must be up to par.   Kids’ sites like Webkinz, the “World of Warcraft for kids,” today requires at least 1024×768 (tomorrow, maybe 1280×1024) internal panel sizes, and I need at least enough CPU performance to prevent pauses in the action.  Try running Hulu HD, an Apple HD trailer, or iTunes HD TV shows on a netbook and you will know what I am talking about. A 13″ panel would really optimize the viewing experience when not connected to an external display.

Battery life isn’t that important at home, but a couple hours would be reasonable, along with a retractable power cord.  Weight isn’t as important unless you have difficulty carrying a few pounds room to room.  If that’s the case, I would recommend a lifetime membership to Gold’s Gym.  Hard drive size isn’t as important because I can leverage the hard drive space on my home server, but I still want at least 160GB for applications or DRM-based content loads in case I need to take it on a family trip.

On games, While I don’t expect to play Crysis on highest quality settings, I would expect to be able to play a game like Spore and the Sims 2 at 30 fps (frames per second) and decent quality.

My ideal away-from-home mini-notebook

Outside the home is all about portability features and much less about entertainment. Battery life, size and weight become absolutely paramount in defining an “acceptable” bar level of performance.

Like the “at home” netbook, I still want my version to be able to effectively run today’s and at least one future generation of web applications at resolutions no less than 1024×768.   I don’t think that is asking too much, is it?  Also, I could live with less than a 10″ display.

Eight to nine hours battery life (which we know really means five to six browsing hours) would be optimal, as I probably wouldn’t even need to bring a power cord for the day.  If I don’t need to bring my power cord with me every time I go outside the house, then having a larger, possibly less expensive and faster charging power brick would be OK.  This only makes sense if it saves money on the BOM cost because those tiny power adapters are cool.

As I said, if I’m going to need to lug this everywhere, weight is a huge factor and at 1.5 to 2 lbs, this seems plenty light enough. Also, the closed height cannot exceed ¾”, which would make it thicker than a Mac Air, but thinner than the Asus Eee PC Surf 4G, allowing for easy storage in a glove box or even in my bedroom drawer.

On the WAN communications side, I want to insert my SIM chip into my mini-notebook from my BlackBerry and get the same speedy, instant-on communications features I have had for years.  Sure, I could tether, but if you are redesigning something, why settle for “good enough?”  I don’t want to wait for 4G to do something useful or fun and could live with 3G or even, gasp, EDGE.  Why should I have to pay for service twice?  I know Pat, grow up, this is business… :>

Hard drive storage is a bit more important with this design because I wouldn’t have speedy access to large amounts of quick storage on my home server.  Sure, I could use one of those “in-the-cloud” services, but until someone invents a more reliable synchronization tool, I will keep my documents and iTunes and Movielink content on my system, snugly fit on a 320GB hard drive.  I have been keeping my “life” on MyYahoo for years, including my contacts, notes, calendar, and email, but documents and content are different.

As I would want to use this in my car, GPS and high bandwidth Bluetooth must be standard.  The GPS is obvious, as I could use it as a mapping tool.  I would like to use the higher bandwidth Bluetooth to gain access to my car speaker system and also pump audible navigational signals as well.  Of course, if this thing serves as the nerve center for my car, I need some type of standard docking mechanism that delivers power with ease of attachment so I can take it in the house when I am home from work.  I know, I am asking a lot.

So that is what I want in my mini-notebook.  A bit different I know, but did you expect anything less?  And if you are wondering why I didn’t call it a “netbook”, well I want to more than just the “net.”  With that, I would like to hear your thoughts on what your dream mini-notebook would look like.

Pat Moorhead is Vice President of Advanced Marketing at AMDHis postings are his own opinions and may not represent AMD’s positions, strategies or opinions. Pat manages his own blog at blogs.AMD.com where he shares his expertise and opinions on mobile technology, gaming, graphics and more.

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Comments

  • jackie burns
    Can an HP1000 Mini-Notebook be used for word processing without being connected to the wireless internet. I just need a mini portable that can be used as a typewriter.
  • It's hard to imagine how far AMD has fallen from grace. Back in the day, Intel had to fight to compete with the Opteron.

    Then the conversation moved away from desktops where Mhz mattered to notebooks and it was the beginning of the end.

    The geode in the OLPC isn't an achievement to speak of since it was made to go into set-top boxes and ended up in a computer.

    What mobile processors does AMD even have? The Turion? Aside from Compaq - I'm not sure that any other company even uses those for real products.

    AMD needs a chipset with ATI graphics in the center that performs better than Intel's 950. Then it has to bring the Duron back or dig some other cheap mobile processor up and put a computer behind it. I have faith that AMD will do something, but to blog about what a netbook should be when AMD barely has a toe in seems like a bad way to describe a "vision".

    netbook nerd
    - http://www.netbookreports.com
  • Netbook FANBOYZ, there is a good debate going on right now on Yahoo Tech, driven by respectable journalist, Christopher Null, entitled, "The pros and cons of netbooks."

    200 comments, about 50% against netbook, 50% for netbooks. Its probably time to swarm over there and tell all the people who don't agree with everything you say how dumb they are.

    http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/108513

    What makes you so dumb is that moorhead is actually issuing a good idea here which could help your zealot cause.
  • Jake Joemann
    Actually, James, moorhead's first post on netbooks was positive, entitled, "The Plusses."

    http://blogs.amd.com/patmoorhead/archive/2008/0...

    This post is very positive as well on future design capabilities standpoint.

    And dont forget about the first netbook, OLPC, powered by AMD. Here: http://laptop.org/laptop/hardware/specs.shtml

    So AMD IS in the netbook market, you just don't know it or won't take the time to study it.
  • James M. Horn
    Paul Horn,

    if you think pat moorhead is unbiased in his criticism of netbooks, you need to take reading comprehension classes!

    if you read all pat moorhead's blogs, you should come to the conclusion that he despises netbooks--why wouldn't he? netbooks are making people money, and AMD is not involved! it is pretty simple.
  • bro
    MoMo,

    I just went to the Disney.com on my eeepc and it ran smoothly. i played "pirates of the caribbean" flash game. maybe you had a defective unit.

    there are some sites that my eeepc can't handle. But even my AMD quad-core desktop doesn't run those sites perfectly.

    the limits of websites probably have more to do with the speed of your internet connection more than the speed of your processor nowadays.

    i figure this because even half-life 2 works fairly smoothly on my eeepc.
  • Paul horn
    Lyle, AMD started the netbook with OLPC that Intel tried to crush. Remember 60 Minutes dismantling Intel with their own documents? AMD has never said they don't like them, particularly since they invented the category. If you read all Moorheads blogs, he covers the plusses and minuses. Owning 7, he probably has used them more than you. His blog above is about EXPANDING the market for netbooks. How many netbooks have you tried? Do you see any minuses? If not, you are the corporate spinner, sir.
  • lyle howard seave
    That guy is a internet sensation on liliputing.com and other such sites.
    And not for his tech knowledge.


    Moorhead's job is to lie to people. he's good at it, they made him VP for a reason.
    if he worked for Microsoft, he'd be the guy telling you Vista was awesome.
    Its his job.

    AMD hasnt gotten onboard and he has to justify this. That's all.
    If youve read his articles and seen the videos, you get the feel of the BS.

    Btw, we got a 299$ Acer One (theyre gonna sell 6 million this year and they only came out in july.) and I have a 1500$ Dell laptop. They are not for the same use. My wife prefers to bring it with her to the gym and to the coffeeshop and I often have to settle for the Dell. Maybe we will get another netbook wehn the Acer One hits 250$ for Xmas but we could also get a Dell Mini 9 w./ Ubuntu like my brother bought. It works as beautifully as the Acer (teh One's one weak point is a very weak battery) but is much easier to mod (got 2GB ram for laptop for under 30$ this week).

    Millions have found that the size/price are something that strikes a chord just like no buttons and rounded corners and premium prices turns others on.
    The customers have spoken and AMD's stance is that THEY know better than the customer what it wants. (as if they were Apple!)
  • Biased Apple Lover
    Apple's jobs said it best:

    "There's, as best as we can tell, not a lot of them [netbooks] getting sold." In other words, a small market.

    "We don't know how to make a $500 computer that's not a piece of junk, and our DNA will not let us ship that." In other words, the current netbooks suck.

    http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?...
  • MoMo
    bro, moorhead is right about the web capabilities given that the current netbooks can't do any complex website well.

    The basic ones with flash 8/7 and today's silverlight, yes, but why limit yourself? My former 1000h, SUCKED at heavy flash 9 sites and anything that was higher density content, nfw. It chugged, sputtered, paused....sucked. More than the sites moorhead outlined above. Worse yet, it sucked on my kid's sites, who thought it was "cute" and girlie system, but when it couldn't even run disney.com well, they hated it.

    The modding.... cool, I get that, I love that about the eeek pc. But, get a frickin' desktop if you want ultimate modding.
  • bro
    after reading pat moorhead's blogs, i thought netbooks couldn't do any flash, word processing, and they would suck at browsing the web.

    but i got one anyway after i saw it at bestbuy and it was good. i was expecting to use it only for email after reading pat moorhead's blogs, but i got it because that is all that i need!!! just email.


    but it surprised me. i'm doing word processing, reading blogs, playing some light games, watching youtube with decent sound. I have completely stopped using my desktop.


    i bought 5 netbooks. 2 were eee900 that i play around with and mod. i have windows 7 on it and it is smooth. i have 1 msi wind that i got to put mac os on it. and i got 1 acer aspire one that i got because it was cheap and i have an eee 1000 that i use most of the time.

    people replace computers every few years. with netbooks, i can afford to replace them 4 or 5 times per year.
  • Vance
    I'd have expected at least a mention of keyboard importance, coming from a writer. That's one of my top priorities in a netbook, with battery life and a snappy mobile OS following closely behind.
  • Harry
    One factor not mentioned is price. These systems are meant to be almost an impulse purchase, or maybe in the future we will see them bundled for free or a very reduced prices in service plans (for ISPs, mobile operators etc). Their marketing will probably resemble mobile phones in a few years.

    As for the two types of systems I think they are well spotted. My comments for each:

    The home system: I think such a system will probably be the future of the very new category of nettops, not netbooks per se. This could very well be the future of desktops, provided we also finally get decent and easy to configure home servers (easy for the average consumer that is, not an IT professional). But Asus seems to be building such a system already (see http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2008/10/31/next-ge..., and based on the Intel Atom Mr. Moorhead!)

    The out-of-home system: I agree with most of the requirements (battery life in particular is atrocious in current netbooks). I think the disk is excessive (60-80 gb should be enough-after all this is rarely your only computer, you can load it for each trip). GPS seems to be a curious omission in current systems, perhaps they will get to it after 3G in the scramble to differentiate new products? Integration with car electronics would be nice but needs standards from the car side as well. And if we get these standards, then it would be nice to have integration inside an airplane with a network during flight, in a mall when we go shopping etc. Lots of new markets here, but they need a lot of people getting their act together to become reality.

    Another thing I would like is a touch screen (multitouch of course as long as I am dreaming) allowing the netbook to be used like a tablet. That would allow a whole new range of uses, and for some reason netbook manufacturers forget it. Perhaps they want us to buy a netbook and a MID, but do they expect us to carry both around?
  • @MoMo

    How much does that 15 inch $499 laptop weigh? I'm just asking because mobility is one of the really big selling points for netbooks. For people who carry their laptops on their back for most of the day a netbook is a godsend. It's like the ultraportables of two-three years ago only at prices that aren't reserved for business users.

    I have a MSI Wind and a Macbook. The macbook cost three times the price of the wind, but since I got the wind I rarely use my macbook anymore. It's just not that often that I need a Core2Duo to get my stuff done. I think a lot of people are coming to similar conclusions and that's why netbooks are taking off - especially now that they're all getting 3G built-in. Your 15 inch cheap laptop doesn't have that.
  • MoMo
    I totally want both of these. I have (had) an Asus eeepc 1000h. It was advertised as "all day computing" and what a load. I get 3 hours of real use. What a scam. It chokes on any big flash site. Why I cheaped out I have no idea. Please shoot me. Thank god is usa i can return anything and i did. I would recommend to all to buy a real laptop at $499 with a real processor like a Pentium or Turion. For the same price as I bought my POS, I could have gotten a full laptop with 15inch screen, 160gb hard drive, dvd player and a real OS. Oh and 3 hours real usage time. Check them out at best buy, they are easy to find. I hate NUTbooks, love NOTEbooks.
  • Jacky
    Netbooks are just a big scam in any market other than emerging regions where people cannot afford a real notebook.

    Here's the deal: Asus, MSI and Gigabyte must succeed in this netbook business because the desktop market is evaporating. The notebook market is dominated by "real" brands like HP, Dell, Lenovo, Apple, Acer. Asus, MSI and Gigabyte must be successful at netbooks or die as companies.

    Intel is just laughing all the way to the bank. Also, Intel perceives as the "top 7" notebook guys as too powerful as a block so they must teach them a lesson. That's why Intel enabled Asus then MSI then Gigabyte before the other guys. HP was first with Cyrix then Intel punished them with Ausus.

    The "big 7" are being dragged into the netbook business kicking and screaming. Just wait for the the class-action lawsuits to kick in when people realiza what a scam these are. Just like the "Free-PCs" a while back.

    Then there's Windows 7. Microsoft will kill XP at that point. How well do you think Win7 will run on a netbook? Probably best case a tad better than Vista, which is awful. So when mickeysoft kills XP, what then? Ubuntu? 60% return rates I hear in retail. Why do you think WalMart stopped shipping those crappy things? Why did 95% of all netbook models go to XP? Because when the average Joe goes to buy it and try to plug their printer in and oops, no driver, back to WalMart. Unless the average Joe knows how to write their own driver. :>

    Netbook turds will at best have a slow rise but in the end, Intel cannot afford to make too many and the market will be governed down... unless they can grow markets with them.
  • Phil
    Sashe you write for "Eee PC News" in Germany. A bit biased view, yes? If you actually read the blog post, he is talking about a netbook. The away from home one is like the netbooks today the in the home is aa new concept. He says he likes them so why do you attack him? He is helping your cause so why don't you support him.
  • hey man
    "as soon as they wipe out via they will retreat."

    will they come back after a new company starts making cheap chips for netbooks?

    there will always be a place for ultra-cheap computers that only check e-mail, browse the web, and do light word processing. netbooks can do that and more.

    asus sold 6 million without even being in retail stores for a long time. how many will they sell when you can pick them up at Staples, Office Depot, Radio Shack, FYE.

    300 million processors are sold each year? and asus only sold 6M?

    you are forgetting something: there are dozens of other netbook manufacturers out there.
  • paul horn
    Sascha, there are 300m PC processors sold every year. Who gives a wipe about 6M Asus eeeech PCs being sold? If the market gets big, AMD will be there. Don't forget amd created the sub $1k pc market, were eneergy efficient before intel thought it was cool, and created the consumer notebook market with compaq.

    By the way, at least pat has the courage to come out and say what he wants. Compare that to the wimpy anonymous posters. He has guts.

    Only reason intel sells the adom is because apple thinks it sucks for the iphone. Lots of silicon, no place to sell it. As soon as they wipe out Via they will retreat.

    By the way, gates said we didn't need anything past the 386. We have hear we kont need performance for 20 years.
  • Of course we can't expect any real netbook specs and ideas from Pat cause even though he is very aware of the market (and i am sure the sales numbers of Intel and VIA platforms are causing a couple of sleepless nights at AMD) he just can't promote it and confirm, that this is the fastest growing IT-market in these days..

    So why is that?

    Well, when you are missing the whole lowpower consumption market for half a decade (even though they had a nice try with the Geode) you have a real problem in these days. The Geode wasn't that bad at all but hey, the ULV Athlon they announced on last years Boston Embedded Systems, was scary. Mounted on a Mini-ITX mainboard and with a massive heatsink all over the platform... You just couldn't touch it and they were only able to show a running system in an open case. Well, it was good enough for AMD to make a global pressrelease on a platform that wouldn't survive for more than 24hours in a closed case. What is going on with you guys?

    Pat, the users just don't wanna get these high performance platforms anymore. You guys tried to convince us for so many years, that we need more Ghz, more RAM and faster HDD, just to run an operating system.

    Thank god the customers finally got it and they are voting now by buying millions of netbooks. Every Month!

    And guess what they don't buy... a mobile AMD platform ;)

    Anyways i am keeping my fingers crossed for you cause we need another strong competitor on the market.
  • I want the entertainment thingie right now. One thing I don't get is intel. Either make the atom in high volume or stop the dumb netbook thing. If you can't afford a real notebook I get it, if not its stupid business. Atom at $50 and centrino at $150. Real smart intel! But then again if all they want to do is crush AMD, it makes sense, cuz they haven't shown up for the party.
  • Paul orton
    Very good insight. These designs would certainly make things more exciting.
  • For My ideal at-home mini-notebook, I chose HP Mini 1000.
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